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Ideas for community building?
7/26/2006 7:27 pm |
my group has been the victim of your new protocols to stop fraud. my group description which has gone unchanged for the few years since it's creation. however, with these new anti-fraud rules my group's description was reviewed and my group denied because my group description allegedly had contact information in it. there is no contact information in the descriptionl. there are no email addresses, phone numbers, instant message, etc. in the description. my group description only has what the group is about, the city we're in, and the set day and time that we hold chats in the group chatroom, nothing else. i sent the description for update in the hopes that when you reviewed it you would see your error. however, the group was denied again. what's going on and what can i do? this is upsetting a very successful and active group. all these changes instead of improving is making things worse. i don't know if this some sort of error bug of yours but what can i do to get my group active again. here is the group i'm talking about if you want to review the decription, BBWS in houston . the onlyt thing else i can try is blanking the description which is ridiculous, or removing our chat times since i don't know what your reviewers is mistakenly viewing as contact information. please, help  sweetnurse25
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7/26/2006 8:29 pm |
what is it with this site getting 'bound up' every night just about now? No postings go through in the groups and no postings go through in the blogs either.....for at least 3 hours it seems?
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Shelly_Marie, your reply to sweetnurse25 is correct, although at the risk of repeating myself, there's one little piece of the puzzle that I think could be re-emphasized. It's that little "Report this for abuse" link. What happens when people click on that link, is that the group intro. will get scanned by the software, and words like "emale" (if spelled correctly) will cause an immediate denial of the group without any human intervention. As has been pointed out, there are only a couple of messages that appear under the group intro when it's denied - one has to do with the use of a language that's supposedly not allowed, the other is the individual contact info. message. (I think groups with fewer than about 500 members get the one about the language, and the rest get the one about contact info. Whichever message you get doesn't really matter ... because both are usually completely irrelevant.) You should also be careful not to use too many digits in a row, because these will be treated as a ph0ne number by the software. (In fact, if you correctly spell the word "ph0ne" you'll probably get an immediate denial too, such as if you say something like "Please do not post your ph0ne number.") I believe there are many other ways to inadvertantly trigger this automatic response from the software ... I suspect Friend Finder intentionally doesn't document them, because they don't want people getting around them. So basically you just have to look at your group intro and try to figure out wehther there's anything there that could possibly violate the Terms of Use, based on a computer program that picks out individual words or symbols. (As another example, I'd be wary about using the word addr3ss, such as in "Please do not addr3ss people rudely in the chat room" ) Last, but not least, people get groups denied all the time for no apparent reason as a result of someone clicking "Report this for abuse" late at night. Interest group moderators need to login every morning to check on this, and resubmit as needed. This is not a software issue, it's a staff training issue - the night folks aren't quite as good. GiggleBite, your missing profiles problem is also due to that "Report for Abuse" link. What happens is that someone will click that link under a post, and either the software will automatically cancel their profile (for reasons similar to what I explained above), or some staffer will err on the side of doing so. But the member won't get an emale from abuse. The biggest mistakes my members make are: (1) they forget to say that they have no emale from abuse; when they emale team AT a.f.f. d0t c0m; (2) they don't mention their profile handle (CS will not look it up if it's not explicitly stated up front); and (3) a few will use a different emale address from the one associated with their profiles (if CS gets around to trying to restore it, I believe they will check and automatically reject the request if the two emale addr3sses do not match). Because there are so many lost profiles, CS is probably overwhelmed with emale from people who want restorations. So when the sender of the emale fails to dot every "i" and cross every "t" ... then their request gets ignored. That's the most effective way for CS to deal with the volume. If I were you, I'd remind them of what they have to do, and suggest that they emale once every couple of days until they get some action. One more thing I've said before - but will repeat. Never post messages, blogs, or blog comments under your moderator profile! If you do, your moderator profile can become lost because someone clicks the "Report for abuse link". If that happens, all the topics you've started will become invisible, and some other member of your group will be invited to become the new moderator ... it can all happen automatically. These shenanigans been going on ever since the "Report for abuse" link was established (it used to be called "request review" ). It's been there for almost as long as the interest groups themselves (since Feb '05 I think). It's not going away anytime soon, if ever ... although maybe some "ass kissing" will help LOL. (Some of you attractive gals might do your part - I may not have the necessary qualifications  Seriously, we all have to learn to live the "Report this for abuse" link and its consequences for the indefinite future, maybe forever. So the more we understand about how it works, the better off we'll all be 
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7/27/2006 7:16 pm |
Luv, Its possible that someone could have clicked report abuse under her groups description or maybe she updated her groups description and added that part and then it got denied. Could be either way... About moderator getting their profile removed and the mod position going to someone else.....My friend had a group and his profile got removed and they still havent asked anyone to be mod, we just posted a message saying that the group was closed, since it was new and didnt have that many people in it yet anyway. I emailed CS about getting it myself cause he suggested it, and they said that he would have to email them and tell them to give it to me, and he did and they never did it. His profile has been removed now for probably close to two months or so. I think they need to do something with that 'report this for abuse' link...people are using it for kiddie games alot.
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strangely enough this hasn't happened to me in a long long time, but it has now happened twice this week and both times I was booted while sitting in my group chat room. Very irritating cos then people think you have just left the room. During our convo last night no less than three of us got booted at seperate times and found it hard to sgn back in. I have only just gotten back in with this handle this morning. No wonder people need two handles on this site. I would feel this is a waste of resourses and it means to me that there are probably only half as many people on the site as we think  Bye everyone, it was a blast
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Hi Andrew....I have been reading this post and it is a long one, and I have a couple of comments.' Sor far as the issue of the Most Popular Bloggers list, I feel you should leave it as is. Some people like the competitive aspect, some don't. Makes no difference to me. Unique comments are just as good views, IMHO. Since I am way down on the list, jealousy is not an issue with me. Most Active Comments in the Groups, leave as it is. Some people like to play that game, some don't. Again makes no difference to me. I do think before you start thinking about adding new features you need to look at the existing structure and clean it up, so to speak. I don't claim to have a lot of knowledge about computer technology, but it would seem to me that if there is a lot of deadwood, it would affect how any system functions. I think what we are seeing now are problems with system overload. Toward that end, it follows that parameters should be set up that any profile, blog, or group which is inactive for a certain length of time should be automatically deleted, I would suggest between 90-180 days. I know from looking at the groups there are a lot with only one member and have been inactive for a while, and I know there are a lot of inactive profiles and blogs. Just my two cents worth. I say automatically delete those who aint using the system. That way they should drop out of networks and groups too. Just delete all traces of them and let the space be used by people who do use it. It might seem to you to look better with all these profiles adding to the head count on the site. I for one would prefer to belong to a smaller site with active members. If this works and you reduce the faults caused by this overload...i bet more people would pay for memberships cos there would be less faults and it would be worth the money. I know I would pay for a better functioning site. It could run along similar lines to the programme that slips non posers in groups to associate membership. No associate meberships just remove them after about three months. Bye everyone, it was a blast
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I want to add that the associate member thing is rubbish too. I have people in my group who don't post but they use the chatroom on a nightly basis, yet they are associate members. This is why I can't delete all of the associates. I think that if they log into the group they should be full members. I don't see hy posting should be so important. Some folk don't like posting. It is unfair that such active members should be lowered down to this status. Do it by how much they log into the group not by postings. Bye everyone, it was a blast
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7/28/2006 10:14 am |
luv, oh i forgot she had said that about going unchanged..you are right then...someone may have clicked it then. I am the top poster in my friends group. His was first, and I was second, but now I am first cause his profile is gone. but i never received any kind of invitation. I dont know?
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7/28/2006 10:15 am |
oh...not sure if this means anything but my profile gets removed every four to five days. Happened again last night, and I emailed CS and they had it back on in about five to ten minutes though...
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I'd like to see a few more options in the NETWORK friends photos area. I'd like to see a grouping for Bloggers , one for Couples, ....would really love to be able to break down my friends list into States; however I know that this would be near impossible. East Coast, West Coast, Midwest, Canada, Europe ...might be some categories though. I have so many people in my friends list and yet if I wanted to take a trip to Spain tomorrow, I'd have an insane time going through everything identifying who is there that I've already had conversation with at one time or another. Just a thought... Sending you another breath of love, Mr. LuvPump! {=} Just a little food for thought............. If you really want to be happy, nobody can stop you... {=}
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I'd like to see a few more options in the NETWORK friends photos area. I'd like to see a grouping for Bloggers , one for Couples, ....would really love to be able to break down my friends list into States; however I know that this would be near impossible. East Coast, West Coast, Midwest, Canada, Europe ...might be some categories though. I have so many people in my friends list and yet if I wanted to take a trip to Spain tomorrow, I'd have an insane time going through everything identifying who is there that I've already had conversation with at one time or another. Just a thought... Sending you another breath of love, Mr. LuvPump! {=} Maybe somebody else will know how to do it better than me Bye everyone, it was a blast
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Got to Friends, Manage Categories,
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7/31/2006 3:42 pm |
Who is the moderator that you cannot stand on this site  LOLI noticed you mentioned this in the past. I agree with you. Some moderators on this site rule with an IRON FIST and some of them think they own their groups. I got news for them. All group moderators are just caretakers that can be fired WITHOUT compensation. If you lose or give away your moderator position for any reason, you do not have the right to get it back. You are like a laid off worker with no right to be recalled. BBW Tonight does NOT support moderators who use their groups as an extension of their profile. Trillogy is correct. Steve
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8/3/2006 9:23 pm |
As a Moderator...of a group...that to me was an important part of life... I took it with the utmost respect. ... as well as this site. I truly hope the goal of Andrew will stay fast and solid. I think people are losing sight...of why they joined. smiles
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I wish there was a way to send an instant message directly from the person's profile. Sometimes the profile will show them on but when I go to the Instant Messenger, it does not show them online. I am assuming that this is a glitch in the program.
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8/5/2006 1:27 pm |
The problem with this is if the person is using dial-up & potentially forged/stolen account, anyone who goes to use that IP later on won't be able to access the site. IP blocking is good in certain cases & I would agree that it should be used if the same person keeps showing up on the same IP.
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8/5/2006 1:50 pm |
I would be open to talking more about the different issues that are showing up & hopefully lending some info/advice whereas needed. For instance, due to the slow loading of the server - have you enabled hotlinking block to stop bandwidth theft? I have noticed that some "rogue" sites copy or directly link to BBW Tonight so they have pass off whatever they are selling. Just do a Google for a member name or even using BBW Tonight as the search word & you should be able to see what I'm talking about. Also, have you split up your resources to different servers to get rid of the unwanted load. Having one directly for messages, one for chat & so on... It can be costly but does take care of a lot of basic problems. Caching of images & creating alternatives for page loading can also help - in one form or another, depending on the users connection speed you can "test" to see what to send to them (low grade to highest quality). As for spammers/scammers/fakes - there are several ways to build a more secure system that allows others to not have to deal with those types of people. You have done will with the Confirm ID as a first part as well as other features since my last visit. If need be I can pass on what "tricks" I know most can or will use to get around such measures but with your implimenting of the "no contact info till the 2nd message", that defintely helps. Most users should be weary of someone sending their contact info from the start & flag it immediately (would you give out your phone number or home address to a complete stranger who just walked up to you?). Per another poster - the ID manditory is a good option as I've heard of underage users posing as adults - though again, copy a parents ID or an adult friends & you are in. Any steps to make it harder for those not of legal age is better than nothing! Should there be an added part to the profile, like you have on ALT in regards to "drugs"? I've talked with people who say they are smokers to refer to 420. I would prefer being able to, pardon the pun, "weed out" those who use drugs so I don't have to deal with them at all (part of message filtering & cupid). Is 5 stars enough? I've found profiles that I match all 5 or even 4 stars but when you visit their profile, something doesn't match up correctly or you find that they you aren't even close to what they want. Would it be possible to increase them to up to 10 stars, so it could break down easier or even place a % instead of stars (80%, 91%, etc.). What one of the most interesting points of this is "couples" - if for instance you have age range that you are looking between 18-49 & allowing couples, if one of the couples is over 49 it counts against the match (even if the other partner is in the age range). Same goes with all the other "matching features" (if one smokes & the other doesn't, one doesn't drink but the other is a heavy drink, one is slender & the other overweight, etc.). What about blocking "undesired" bloggers from linking to anything related to you (especially your blog) - this could relate back to a "hotlinking" but could be messy. So for those above who have mentioned some unwanted users showing up, they could stop them cold from linking directly to anything they say in their blog or their profile. That way friends could still link back & forth but not worry about others doing the same & potentially copying what you blog. I'm still wanting to see more "breakdowns" in certain areas (thankfully you've added to the extended questions - which is wonderful). Like for drinking: drinks only with meals, rarely drinks, drinks on holidays, always has a glass/bottle in hand, closet-drinker :and perhaps smoking: closet smoker, trying to quit, smokes only after sex :and any other area that may need to be "edited" or added to (eye color - if some feel their eyes are a cross between two colors, we should be able to 'feature' that, for instance I'm more of a blue-grey or grey-blue). Add-on, since you already have "specifics" in regards to our body (circumsized, length, width, cup size, etc.) - why not "body/pubic hair" (natural, trimmed, shaved)? That's all for now, for everyone to digest.
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8/5/2006 1:52 pm |
I would be open to talking more about the different issues that are showing up & hopefully lending some info/advice whereas needed. For instance, due to the slow loading of the server - have you enabled hotlinking block to stop bandwidth theft? I have noticed that some "rogue" sites copy or directly link to BBW Tonight so they have pass off whatever they are selling. Just do a Google for a member name or even using BBW Tonight as the search word & you should be able to see what I'm talking about. Also, have you split up your resources to different servers to get rid of the unwanted load. Having one directly for messages, one for chat & so on... It can be costly but does take care of a lot of basic problems. Caching of images & creating alternatives for page loading can also help - in one form or another, depending on the users connection speed you can "test" to see what to send to them (low grade to highest quality). As for spammers/scammers/fakes - there are several ways to build a more secure system that allows others to not have to deal with those types of people. You have done will with the Confirm ID as a first part as well as other features since my last visit. If need be I can pass on what "tricks" I know most can or will use to get around such measures but with your implimenting of the "no contact info till the 2nd message", that defintely helps. Most users should be weary of someone sending their contact info from the start & flag it immediately (would you give out your phone number or home address to a complete stranger who just walked up to you?). Per another poster - the ID manditory is a good option as I've heard of underage users posing as adults - though again, copy a parents ID or an adult friends & you are in. Any steps to make it harder for those not of legal age is better than nothing! Should there be an added part to the profile, like you have on ALT in regards to "drugs"? I've talked with people who say they are smokers to refer to 420. I would prefer being able to, pardon the pun, "weed out" those who use drugs so I don't have to deal with them at all (part of message filtering & cupid). Is 5 stars enough? I've found profiles that I match all 5 or even 4 stars but when you visit their profile, something doesn't match up correctly or you find that they you aren't even close to what they want. Would it be possible to increase them to up to 10 stars, so it could break down easier or even place a % instead of stars (80%, 91%, etc.). What one of the most interesting points of this is "couples" - if for instance you have age range that you are looking between 18-49 & allowing couples, if one of the couples is over 49 it counts against the match (even if the other partner is in the age range). Same goes with all the other "matching features" (if one smokes & the other doesn't, one doesn't drink but the other is a heavy drink, one is slender & the other overweight, etc.). What about blocking "undesired" bloggers from linking to anything related to you (especially your blog) - this could relate back to a "hotlinking" but could be messy. So for those above who have mentioned some unwanted users showing up, they could stop them cold from linking directly to anything they say in their blog or their profile. That way friends could still link back & forth but not worry about others doing the same & potentially copying what you blog. I'm still wanting to see more "breakdowns" in certain areas (thankfully you've added to the extended questions - which is wonderful). Like for drinking: drinks only with meals, rarely drinks, drinks on holidays, always has a glass/bottle in hand, closet-drinker :and perhaps smoking: closet smoker, trying to quit, smokes only after sex :and any other area that may need to be "edited" or added to (eye color - if some feel their eyes are a cross between two colors, we should be able to 'feature' that, for instance I'm more of a blue-grey or grey-blue). Add-on, since you already have "specifics" in regards to our body (circumsized, length, width, cup size, etc.) - why not "body/pubic hair" (natural, trimmed, shaved)? That's all for now, for everyone to digest.
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8/6/2006 9:03 am |
Perhaps it already works this way, perhpas not, but.... With all of the hoopla over the Bloggers Lists, perhaps the lists only take into account the past week, just like the lists on the Advice Line.
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8/6/2006 11:09 am |
More "mood settings"!! We need 'playful' as well as others....
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8/7/2006 7:12 pm |
how about making it so that a watched post or blog doesnt get highlighted yellow untill the post or comment is visiable, so we dont keep going back to the same blog and post over and over again looking for the comments or newest post ~sexy~
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8/9/2006 6:13 pm |
luvpump, this is something that you might wanna have checked out. check out this group, click on the discussion threads and then look at the top part where it shows the links to what group and topic/location that group is in... group_0809 also, you might want to check out all of the groups in that same location...most of them are the same: stolen threads from other groups
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