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AMISH MADNESS  

rm_pchamp012004 63M
791 posts
10/3/2006 3:43 pm

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10/9/2006 4:55 pm

AMISH MADNESS

The third incidence of school insanity in a week happened yesterday in the peaceful Amish community of Nickel Mines, Pa.

Charles Carl Roberts IV, decided that it would be a good day to kill little girls. Unfortunately, after shooting 10 little girls execution-style, he took his own miserable life ... there-by denying the victim's families the closure of witnessing his execution.

Once again, we as a nation are unable to protect our most precious<b> resource ... </font></b>our .

The question is: What can we do to make sure something like this can never happen again?

This answer is beyond my ability. We can do what we always do and throw money at the situation, requiring that all schools have armed guards on campus. While the thought of our being guarded is calming to some, it is horrifying to others that feel that their should not lose their innocence at such a young age.

The root problem is that there are way to many sick individuals allowed to run around, endangering our and ourselves. Identifying them and dealing with them is the problem. Barring the suspension of the Constitution (something that I would not suggest ... once you give up your rights ... they are gone forever), we cannot force people into psycological testing and treatment.

Till we think up a long-term solution, turning our schools into armed enclaves may be the better of the two evils.

Anyone with any other ideas please let them fly.


JuicyBBW1001 62F

10/3/2006 4:09 pm

I don't really have any ideas on how to protect our most precious resources. However as a parent to a 6 year old daughter I can tell you that she has been to self defense class for children and we practice regularly and I would hate to be the stranger that trys to pick her up because she has a good kick and a very loud deafening scream.

Juicy


rm_pchamp012004 63M
2672 posts
10/3/2006 4:46 pm

Martial Arts for all the students ... not a bad idea ... I like it. Think you could show me a few moves juicy?


rm_mm0206 76F
7758 posts
10/3/2006 5:20 pm

It takes a village to raise caring loving children...

In this case the family of the psycho should be questioned and held up to show the responsibility of parents and extended family members
It is shown that we are what we will be before we even start school.

Bonding with a parent, grandparent, aunts uncles cousins... god parents... has to have an effect on a child's psyche.
Children thrown away and pushed away from love show up as this example shows us...
I would be willing to bet if it was dredged deep enough someone hurt a little boy, refused to love and accept and encourage him early in his life.

One of the few things that tears me apart is abuse of innocents, animals and those that cant or wont protect themselves.

But as you suggested I doubt the Amish would have allowed guards in their schools.

My heart goes out to the families, to those that may recover and live and to those that bore witness to the traumatic events. Their lives will never be the same.

...m.


florallei 106F

10/3/2006 7:51 pm

Hello,

It is said that the man who did the shooting was bullied. It was said that the same thing happened to the two boys in Columbine and other shootings. What does this tell us? Where were the parents? Why did they not know how their child was feeling or thinking or what is in their rooms and what they did after school hours. They left trails or evidence that showed they were clearly troubled young individuals.
We see today couples or young women raising children who does not have a clue how to raise that child and teach it and nurture and take parenting as a very serious responsibility. I know there are also many parents who really do try but sadly many are abusive or act irresponsibly as parents.
In most difficult task or careers, a training or education is required to go into a certain field and why is it that our most precious resources our children are being raised by adults who does not take some kind of training in order to raise well adjusted and loving and happy children.
I suppose what I am saying is WE the parents are responsible...For heavens sake if you have a child, act responsibly...We as relatives support them...It will not solve all of societies problems but I believe it can help minimize these incidents...or perhaps I am just naive!
I apologize for rambling...

florallei


rm_1hotwahine 70F
21089 posts
10/4/2006 6:57 am

I just read an article in Salon online that at least attempts to address possible solutions to this predicament. Basically the gist of the article was to focus on securing schools without the feeling of lockdown.

It also addressed the idea of intervention re: individuals who seem too tightly wound (my phrase, not the article's). Although I agree, I also see this as a double edged sword that could devolve into a witch hunt, if handled badly.

Anyway, I can send you a link to the acticle if you like.

And hey...great to have you back!

Yeah, I'm still [blog 1hotwahine]


rm_impish_pixie 61F
6862 posts
10/4/2006 3:40 pm

I only know it breaks my heart. The youngest child was 6. I will never be able to comprehend the ability to harm such innocense. I agree though with MM0206. It does take a village - and until we are ALL ready to embrace, protect, guide and LOVE all children, we are doomed.

I make mistakes, I am out of control & at times hard to handle. But if you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best. ~Marilyn


rm_pchamp012004 63M
2672 posts
10/4/2006 3:47 pm

mm, it doesn't take a village, it takes parents ... preferably 2, but you go with what you have. Problem seems that this particular nut "seemed" normal.

Ardent, I'm sure the Amish wouldn't agree to guards in the schools. And I agree, Homeland Security is not perfect by any means ... but it's better than nothing.

Realthing, there's always home-schooling

Flor, parenting is the big issue here ... unfortunately, modern couples must usually both work to support the family. I'm fine with that, it's the couples that both work, both bringing in 6-digit income and leave child-rearing to a succession of nannies that makes me say HUH?

Wahine, please send me the link to that article ... nice being back


rm_pchamp012004 63M
2672 posts
10/4/2006 4:19 pm

Pixie, if you are relying on everyone to do the right thing ...
Wow ... it would be nice (idealic even), but we need to be realistic.


rm_impish_pixie 61F
6862 posts
10/4/2006 7:14 pm

No...I'm not. Because you're right, it would be nice and quite idyllic, but far, far from realistic. BUT...I AM relying on ME, and YOU, and everyone above us, because if all we do is talk about it, well, that doesn't go very far now does it? So in my little corner of the world I will embrace, encourage, love, listen and hold up the children with whom I come in contact. Perhaps I, or YOU, or those above us will be the one to change the direction of a life. The world is full of possibilities and though a touch idealistic...one must start somewhere.

I make mistakes, I am out of control & at times hard to handle. But if you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best. ~Marilyn


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